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valamhic

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We need some adults in the room.
Roll on November.
NATO would hammer Russia in a conventional war, it never wanted to invade Russia. If Russia is losing it could trigger nuking. Then there is China, NATO needs to prepare for a war with China.

An army trained for Poland will not be much use in the Indo Pacific zone. China is developing hyper long range weapons to try to keep the Americans out.
 

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NATO would hammer Russia in a conventional war, it never wanted to invade Russia. If Russia is losing it could trigger nuking. Then there is China, NATO needs to prepare for a war with China.

An army trained for Poland will not be much use in the Indo Pacific zone. China is developing hyper long range weapons to try to keep the Americans out.
NATO would lose vs Russia in a conventional war. It doesn't have the troops or weapon manufacturing ability, and is made up of many different factions speaking different languages.
 

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NATO would hammer Russia in a conventional war, it never wanted to invade Russia. If Russia is losing it could trigger nuking. Then there is China, NATO needs to prepare for a war with China.

An army trained for Poland will not be much use in the Indo Pacific zone. China is developing hyper long range weapons to try to keep the Americans out.
NATO hasn't a hope, it has a few hangers full of flashy planes and tanks and stuff but has it the manpower or resolve to invade, always more difficult than to defend, and it was conceived as a defensive force.
 

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NATO hasn't a hope, it has a few hangers full of flashy planes and tanks and stuff but has it the manpower or resolve to invade, always more difficult than to defend, and it was conceived as a defensive force.
Are you conflating invading with defending, different I think?
 

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NATO would lose vs Russia in a conventional war. It doesn't have the troops or weapon manufacturing ability, and is made up of many different factions speaking different languages.
Language is no problem nowadays, manufacturing could be a problem.
 

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The price of sporting rifle ammo here went up from 31 euros in April to 44.50 euros now
 

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So what would happen if Russia invaded Poland's eastern region with tanks, air and ground troops next Friday?
NATO, as a defensive force would be there, in theory, to help defend Poland.

A quite different job to invading and breaking up Russia which is what the neocons really want it to do.
 
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So what would happen if Russia invaded Poland's eastern region with tanks, air and ground troops next Friday?
Good question.... presumably the a Polish armed forces would launch an immediate counter offensive repel them , no matter what NATO said
 

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